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Does Does Zinda Tilismath Have Any Steroids In It?
Question: Does does zinda tilismath have any steroids in it?
My wife used to give my daughter(when she was 6 to 9 years old) a few drops in milk and she used to drink it for colds/coughs.
I did not know about this until recently.
Dr. when i was reading about this on the zinda tilismath website it says It has anti-microbial, anti-viral or immune-suppressive effects due to its herbal ingredients. So does that mean that causes immune-suppression?
So, there are five main natural ingredients that make up this composition of Zinda Tilismath namely Eucalyptus oil, Menthol, Thymol, Camphor, and Alkanna Tinctoria. Do you think any of these five ingredients might have any steroids?
My wife used to give my daughter(when she was 6 to 9 years old) a few drops in milk and she used to drink it for colds/coughs.
I did not know about this until recently.
Dr. when i was reading about this on the zinda tilismath website it says It has anti-microbial, anti-viral or immune-suppressive effects due to its herbal ingredients. So does that mean that causes immune-suppression?
So, there are five main natural ingredients that make up this composition of Zinda Tilismath namely Eucalyptus oil, Menthol, Thymol, Camphor, and Alkanna Tinctoria. Do you think any of these five ingredients might have any steroids?
Brief Answer:
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Detailed Answer:
Dear
Thanks for contacting with your health concern and after reviewing your health query I'm of the following opinion:
1. Because it is available as an OTC (over the counter) medicine, i.e. without prescription of the doctor, thus it is completely safe natural Unani Ayurveda Medicine.
PS: Zinda Tilismath literally means: living magic.
2. As far as dose is concerned, the dosage of all the said ingredients is significantly lower than their toxic levels, as such it is completely safe and have no potential harmful risks or side effects.
PS. Beneficial therapeutic side effects outclass the risks of undesriable side effects [if any]
3. This medicine is an example of palliative treatment which means an example of deliberate immunosuppression wherein the medicine is trying to suppress the hyperactive components of immune system and rejuvenating the tissue by enhancing their defense mechanism.
PS. That is why we give SHODHAN [panchkarma] which is deliberate immunosupression, before giving RASAYANA [Immunomodulation] in Ayurveda.
4. Cancer, HIV, Complement deficiencies, ataxia- telangiectasia are example of non deliberate immunosuppression: since it is not achieved by administration of immunosuppressive, i.e immunosuppression is not intended and hence non deliberate.
5. Since 70% of the said medicine contains eucalyptus oil which has euclyptol as the main ingredient [class of monoterpene), and rest 30% constitute the remaining 4 herbs which are termed as GRAS (generally regarded as safe) for human use, and does not contain steroid.
Please revert back with your concern(s)
Dr. Munish Sood
Consultant Physician
Naimittika
direct online link: bit.ly/drmunishsood
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Detailed Answer:
Dear
Thanks for contacting with your health concern and after reviewing your health query I'm of the following opinion:
1. Because it is available as an OTC (over the counter) medicine, i.e. without prescription of the doctor, thus it is completely safe natural Unani Ayurveda Medicine.
PS: Zinda Tilismath literally means: living magic.
2. As far as dose is concerned, the dosage of all the said ingredients is significantly lower than their toxic levels, as such it is completely safe and have no potential harmful risks or side effects.
PS. Beneficial therapeutic side effects outclass the risks of undesriable side effects [if any]
3. This medicine is an example of palliative treatment which means an example of deliberate immunosuppression wherein the medicine is trying to suppress the hyperactive components of immune system and rejuvenating the tissue by enhancing their defense mechanism.
PS. That is why we give SHODHAN [panchkarma] which is deliberate immunosupression, before giving RASAYANA [Immunomodulation] in Ayurveda.
4. Cancer, HIV, Complement deficiencies, ataxia- telangiectasia are example of non deliberate immunosuppression: since it is not achieved by administration of immunosuppressive, i.e immunosuppression is not intended and hence non deliberate.
5. Since 70% of the said medicine contains eucalyptus oil which has euclyptol as the main ingredient [class of monoterpene), and rest 30% constitute the remaining 4 herbs which are termed as GRAS (generally regarded as safe) for human use, and does not contain steroid.
Please revert back with your concern(s)
Dr. Munish Sood
Consultant Physician
Naimittika
direct online link: bit.ly/drmunishsood
Above answer was peer-reviewed by :
Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
Thank you Dr.
So my wife might have given 3 to 4 times a few drops of the Zinda tilismath to my kid (6 years old) mixed in milk or tea in a whole year.
1) Do you think it will cause a lot of immune-suppression?
2) How many days do you think the immunosuppression and its effects will stay in the body after taking one dose of those few drops for 1 time? Will those immunosuppressive effects stay for a few days, months, or years?
So my wife might have given 3 to 4 times a few drops of the Zinda tilismath to my kid (6 years old) mixed in milk or tea in a whole year.
1) Do you think it will cause a lot of immune-suppression?
2) How many days do you think the immunosuppression and its effects will stay in the body after taking one dose of those few drops for 1 time? Will those immunosuppressive effects stay for a few days, months, or years?
Brief Answer:
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Detailed Answer:
Dear
Thanks for reverting back.
1. Because the said medicine doesn't causes B cell or T cell deficiency, i.e. neither it causes IMMUNOSUPPRESSION or IMMUNODEFICIENCY, thus in no way it will lead to any Immunocompromised system or any Auto Immune disorder.
2. According to Tridosha Theory in Ayurveda: all Nija Rogas: diseases caused by vitiation of doshas cannot be considered as autoimmune disorders. Only those diseases in which the tissues and channels and "ojas" are destroyed to the point of no- return or are having bad prognosis (asadhya/ Yapya/ krichchasadhya) can be considered as Autoimmune. So my point is when there is no destruction of the tissues/ organs and "srotas": there is no harmful effect of the immunosuppressive action of the medicine.
" Rogastu Dosha Vaishamyam|
Dosha Samyam Arogyata||( Ashtang Hridya) which means "dosha" imbalance causes disease while their equilibrium keeps one healthy, and in this case of natural deliberate immunosuppression the dosha are programmed to protect our system.
Dr. Munish
Naimittika
further information
Detailed Answer:
Dear
Thanks for reverting back.
1. Because the said medicine doesn't causes B cell or T cell deficiency, i.e. neither it causes IMMUNOSUPPRESSION or IMMUNODEFICIENCY, thus in no way it will lead to any Immunocompromised system or any Auto Immune disorder.
2. According to Tridosha Theory in Ayurveda: all Nija Rogas: diseases caused by vitiation of doshas cannot be considered as autoimmune disorders. Only those diseases in which the tissues and channels and "ojas" are destroyed to the point of no- return or are having bad prognosis (asadhya/ Yapya/ krichchasadhya) can be considered as Autoimmune. So my point is when there is no destruction of the tissues/ organs and "srotas": there is no harmful effect of the immunosuppressive action of the medicine.
" Rogastu Dosha Vaishamyam|
Dosha Samyam Arogyata||( Ashtang Hridya) which means "dosha" imbalance causes disease while their equilibrium keeps one healthy, and in this case of natural deliberate immunosuppression the dosha are programmed to protect our system.
Dr. Munish
Naimittika
Above answer was peer-reviewed by :
Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
Thank you so much Dr. Munish. We were very worried when we saw this immunesuppresive information.
Thank God and i hope it is not like a commercial steriod. I was thinking it is naturally safe. Who would have thought zindatilismath can cause immunesuppression.
Lastly doctor the other reason we were also worried was
I have got my child tested after about 5 or 6 years after an unfortunate blood contamination exposure.
So is an HIV Antibody test reliable and conclusive after 6 years of exposure? Right now she is 11years years old.
So i do know and remember if she has given the zinda tilismath the day before the test, since she used to get sick regularly with coughs/colds. So if the immunesuppression happens then i have read that it can affect the antibody formation. Over all doctor in her whole life she might have given those couple of drops 3 to 4 times in her whole life and that year before testing.
Can it affect the hiv antibody formation and the western blot test by causing a false negative?
Thank God and i hope it is not like a commercial steriod. I was thinking it is naturally safe. Who would have thought zindatilismath can cause immunesuppression.
Lastly doctor the other reason we were also worried was
I have got my child tested after about 5 or 6 years after an unfortunate blood contamination exposure.
So is an HIV Antibody test reliable and conclusive after 6 years of exposure? Right now she is 11years years old.
So i do know and remember if she has given the zinda tilismath the day before the test, since she used to get sick regularly with coughs/colds. So if the immunesuppression happens then i have read that it can affect the antibody formation. Over all doctor in her whole life she might have given those couple of drops 3 to 4 times in her whole life and that year before testing.
Can it affect the hiv antibody formation and the western blot test by causing a false negative?
Brief Answer:
Overcome the HIV stress
Detailed Answer:
Dear
Thanks for reverting back.
A. It jas to be 6 months and not 6 years, since antibody test for HIV after 180 days or 6 months is conclusive and final, because the antibody persists throughout the life of all those infected with HIV, and if there are no HIV antibodies seen: this means there is/are no false negative.
Dr. Munish
Naimittika
Overcome the HIV stress
Detailed Answer:
Dear
Thanks for reverting back.
A. It jas to be 6 months and not 6 years, since antibody test for HIV after 180 days or 6 months is conclusive and final, because the antibody persists throughout the life of all those infected with HIV, and if there are no HIV antibodies seen: this means there is/are no false negative.
Dr. Munish
Naimittika
Above answer was peer-reviewed by :
Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
Thank you Dr. Munish.
Yes we got my. child tested after 5 to 6 years after the exposure and not 6 months after the exposure.
So over all my wife might have given the zinda tilismath 3 to 4 times in her life may be a few drops(1 to 3 drops in milk) every time for cold/cough.
Dr. when i was reading about this on the zinda tilismath website it says It has anti-microbial, anti-viral or immune-suppressive effects due to its herbal ingredients.
So, there are five main natural ingredients that make up this composition of Zinda Tilismath namely Eucalyptus oil, Menthol, Thymol, Camphor, and Alkanna Tinctoria.
So does it mean that it can cause a lot of immune-suppression to such an extent that it can affect the antibody?
Can it cause immunesuppression to such an extent that the antibodies to hiv cannot be formed?
Yes we got my. child tested after 5 to 6 years after the exposure and not 6 months after the exposure.
So over all my wife might have given the zinda tilismath 3 to 4 times in her life may be a few drops(1 to 3 drops in milk) every time for cold/cough.
Dr. when i was reading about this on the zinda tilismath website it says It has anti-microbial, anti-viral or immune-suppressive effects due to its herbal ingredients.
So, there are five main natural ingredients that make up this composition of Zinda Tilismath namely Eucalyptus oil, Menthol, Thymol, Camphor, and Alkanna Tinctoria.
So does it mean that it can cause a lot of immune-suppression to such an extent that it can affect the antibody?
Can it cause immunesuppression to such an extent that the antibodies to hiv cannot be formed?
Yes we got my. child tested after 5 to 6 years after the exposure and not 6 months after the exposure.
So over all my wife might have given the zinda tilismath 3 to 4 times in her life may be a few drops(1 to 3 drops in milk) every time for cold/cough. She has given the zindatilismath 1 or 2 days before the test, this is the reason we got worried a few days ago when we read about this immune-suppressive effects.
Dr. when i was reading about this on the zinda tilismath website it says It has anti-microbial, anti-viral or immune-suppressive effects due to its herbal ingredients.
So, there are five main natural ingredients that make up this composition of Zinda Tilismath namely Eucalyptus oil, Menthol, Thymol, Camphor, and Alkanna Tinctoria.
So does it mean that it can cause a lot of immune-suppression to such an extent that it can affect the antibody?
Can it affect the T cells/Bcells?
Can it cause immunesuppression to such an extent that the antibodies to hiv cannot be formed?
So over all my wife might have given the zinda tilismath 3 to 4 times in her life may be a few drops(1 to 3 drops in milk) every time for cold/cough. She has given the zindatilismath 1 or 2 days before the test, this is the reason we got worried a few days ago when we read about this immune-suppressive effects.
Dr. when i was reading about this on the zinda tilismath website it says It has anti-microbial, anti-viral or immune-suppressive effects due to its herbal ingredients.
So, there are five main natural ingredients that make up this composition of Zinda Tilismath namely Eucalyptus oil, Menthol, Thymol, Camphor, and Alkanna Tinctoria.
So does it mean that it can cause a lot of immune-suppression to such an extent that it can affect the antibody?
Can it affect the T cells/Bcells?
Can it cause immunesuppression to such an extent that the antibodies to hiv cannot be formed?
Brief Answer:
Relax, enjoy and remain stress free.
Detailed Answer:
Dear
Thanks for reverting back.
1. As said earlier, since the medicine doesn't cause T cells or B cells deficiency, thus there is no question of affecting the T cells/ B cells.
2. Antibody are formed in response to the Antigen, so when there are none found in the blood, thus no need of worrying.
3.
● HIV means HUMAN IMMUNO VIRUS, i.e which is transmitted from HUMAN, ( no history present) and virus for cough/cold spreads through Air.
● In HIV, target is CD4 protein whereas in viral, target is receptors on human cells, so there is no role of blood contamination exposure. ( also viral markers are negative), so remember:
" WORRY often gives small things a big SHADOW"
" too much analysis....leads to paralysis (of mind)
Dr. Munish
Naimittika
Relax, enjoy and remain stress free.
Detailed Answer:
Dear
Thanks for reverting back.
1. As said earlier, since the medicine doesn't cause T cells or B cells deficiency, thus there is no question of affecting the T cells/ B cells.
2. Antibody are formed in response to the Antigen, so when there are none found in the blood, thus no need of worrying.
3.
● HIV means HUMAN IMMUNO VIRUS, i.e which is transmitted from HUMAN, ( no history present) and virus for cough/cold spreads through Air.
● In HIV, target is CD4 protein whereas in viral, target is receptors on human cells, so there is no role of blood contamination exposure. ( also viral markers are negative), so remember:
" WORRY often gives small things a big SHADOW"
" too much analysis....leads to paralysis (of mind)
Dr. Munish
Naimittika
Above answer was peer-reviewed by :
Dr. Dr. Yogesh D
Thank you Dr.
I was worried since the Zinda Tilismath website talked about its immunosuppressive effects and i also read that HIV antibody can cause a false negative test in severe immunodeficiency cases.
But thank you for your clarification that it does not cause much immunosuppression.
I was worried since the Zinda Tilismath website talked about its immunosuppressive effects and i also read that HIV antibody can cause a false negative test in severe immunodeficiency cases.
But thank you for your clarification that it does not cause much immunosuppression.
Brief Answer:
Positive review from your side will be highly appreciated
Detailed Answer:
Dear
Thanks for reverting back.
1. Hoping I have given due consideration in taking up and clarifying your queries, your review on the said consultation is highly recommended.
2. If feasible, you can buy or order " LAKTRUM" powder which contains lactoferrin NFQ and bovine colostrum powder and helps in:
* provides Immunoglobulins and hence is a direct Immune booster.
* It has anti- viral and anti- bacterial properties and thus helps in the maturation and activation of B & T Lymphocytes.
* Rich in various health components such as Immunoglobulins, Lactoferrin, Lysozyme, Lactalbumin, Lymphokines, Antioxidant enzymes.
3. I highly prescribe and recommend the same in my patients (children/adults), and if not available there, I can courier the same. ( at your discretion).
Dr. Munish
Naimittika
Positive review from your side will be highly appreciated
Detailed Answer:
Dear
Thanks for reverting back.
1. Hoping I have given due consideration in taking up and clarifying your queries, your review on the said consultation is highly recommended.
2. If feasible, you can buy or order " LAKTRUM" powder which contains lactoferrin NFQ and bovine colostrum powder and helps in:
* provides Immunoglobulins and hence is a direct Immune booster.
* It has anti- viral and anti- bacterial properties and thus helps in the maturation and activation of B & T Lymphocytes.
* Rich in various health components such as Immunoglobulins, Lactoferrin, Lysozyme, Lactalbumin, Lymphokines, Antioxidant enzymes.
3. I highly prescribe and recommend the same in my patients (children/adults), and if not available there, I can courier the same. ( at your discretion).
Dr. Munish
Naimittika
Above answer was peer-reviewed by :
Dr. Raju A.T
Dr. Munish,
Yes absolutely. Thank you for your expertise here and being very helpful and clarifying things. Yes for sure you deserve a great review.
One last question as a brother i am asking you i do not need to worry about this few drops of ZindaTilismath impact on a HIV antibody test? We were so much worried. Can i put this behind me?
Yes absolutely. Thank you for your expertise here and being very helpful and clarifying things. Yes for sure you deserve a great review.
One last question as a brother i am asking you i do not need to worry about this few drops of ZindaTilismath impact on a HIV antibody test? We were so much worried. Can i put this behind me?
Brief Answer:
Worry is misuse of your imagination, so start thinking positively.
Detailed Answer:
Dear
Thanks for reverting back.
1. Yes, slowly-->surely-->definitely you should let this false belief come out from your mindset.
2. Antibodies are protein produced by the immune system in response to a foreign substance, such as HIV, when no such thing is there, it is completely safe to overcome your worry and start afresh.
Dr. Munish
Naimittika
Worry is misuse of your imagination, so start thinking positively.
Detailed Answer:
Dear
Thanks for reverting back.
1. Yes, slowly-->surely-->definitely you should let this false belief come out from your mindset.
2. Antibodies are protein produced by the immune system in response to a foreign substance, such as HIV, when no such thing is there, it is completely safe to overcome your worry and start afresh.
Dr. Munish
Naimittika
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Above answer was peer-reviewed by :
Dr. Saisudha Kotla
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