Question: Does does zinda tilismath have any steroids in it?

I used to mix a few drops in milk and drink it.
I did not know about this until recently.
Dr. when i was reading about this on the zinda tilismath website it says It has anti-microbial, anti-viral or immune-suppressive effects due to its herbal ingredients. So does that mean that causes immune-suppression?

So, there are five main natural ingredients that make up this composition of Zinda Tilismath namely Eucalyptus oil, Menthol, Thymol, Camphor, and Alkanna Tinctoria. Do you think any of these five ingredients might have any steroids?

Can it affect the accuracy of hiv antibody formation and hiv elisa/western blot test? 

Thank you. So if it is past 6 months can I put this behind me?

Can it affect the accuracy of hiv antibody formation and hiv elisa/western blot test by causing a false negative?

Dr. Since it says in the zinda tilismath website that it is an immunesuppressant.
So if someone takes the zinda tilismath on and off when needed for colds/coughs. Used to take a few drops by mixing it with milk or in tea. The HIV antibody test was done around 6 years after the exposure. Would you not think that the HIV antibodies must have already formed many years ago (may be 6 months after the exposure)? So If i take the hiv test tomorrow and i have been using the zindatilismath for the past few days. Does it mean that the already formed hiv antibodies will hide or vanish and not show up in the hiv antibody test? I am sorry doctor i do not understand how this immunosuppression or the steroid works.
In other words i am asking if someone is hiv positive and they take the zindatilismath/immunesuppressant few days before the HIV antibody elisa,western blot test so do they not test positive for antibody and show up?
It is so confusing.
Thank you.

Thank you Dr.
Do you think i should worry about this zindatilismath at all Dr? or just let it go. The test was taken 6 to 7 years after exposure.
Once a person has formed antibodies, and then takes this immunosuppression drops or for that matter any steroids for few days before the test then can those antibodies be hidden? or vanish on its own? for those few days or time? that it does not get pulled in the HIV Ab test.

Do you think i should worry about this zindatilismath at all Dr? or just let it go. The test was taken 6 to 7 years after exposure.
Once a person has formed antibodies, and then takes these immunosuppression drops or for that matter any steroids for few days before the test then can those antibodies be hidden? or vanish on its own? for those few days or time? that it does not get pulled in the HIV Ab test.
I never knew about this Zinda Tilismath immunosuppressive effect until yesterday until i read in their website.
I read that taking steroids can cause a false negative antibody test. Can it still cause a false negative after 6 to 7 years if someone took the zindatilismath on and off sometimes for cold/cough?

Thank you Dr.
I wanted to take your opinion and assurance from you. Since you are an expert.
I was thinking the same thing as to how taking a drop or two of zindatilismath on and off for colds/coughs when needed can cause so much immunosuppression? Total maybe 4 or 5 times in a year. Again Dr. i do realise that this medication is not allopathy. I never took those regularly nor for or more than 3 years for sure.
I was under the impression that On and off taking should not cause immunosuppression even in actual immunosuppressive medications like steroids? Please correct me if you think i am wrong here.

and then once positive for hiv and Once antibodies developed, how can they vanish for any reason(unless there is a severe or late-stage AIDS immunodeficiency). There is no immunodeficiency here health-wise that i can tell for sure. Again Please help and correct me.

There is no immunodeficiency here Dr. Since if it was i would have seen or noticed.
Only thing is that used to take drops once in a while for cold/coughs. If it was so powerful against cold/cough, then i think people can take one time and leave it and not take it anymore.
Assuming it was even a high potent steriod? Can it still cause immunosuppression to cause a false negative HIV antibody test just for those four-five times in a year?
I am asking like a brother here to see if i can put this behind?

Thank you Dr.
I will put this behind. GOt tested only once after 5 to 6 years after the exposure. I am sorry i meant that i used those zindatilismath drops in the milk/tea over all total 4 to 5 times in the whole life.

Dr. XXXXXXX
I also took an opinion of a ayurveda specialist about the ingredients and asked him about the immunesuppression which they talk in there zindatilismath website. He says that it will not cause any immunesuppression.
This is what he has reverted back with. I thought i will share it with you.

1. Because the said medicine doesn't causes B cell or T cell deficiency, i.e. neither it causes IMMUNOSUPPRESSION or IMMUNODEFICIENCY, thus in no way it will lead to any Immunocompromised system or any Auto Immune disorder.

2. According to Tridosha Theory in Ayurveda: all Nija Rogas: diseases caused by vitiation of doshas cannot be considered as autoimmune disorders. Only those diseases in which the tissues and channels and "ojas" are destroyed to the point of no- return or are having bad prognosis (asadhya/ Yapya/ krichchasadhya) can be considered as Autoimmune. So my point is when there is no destruction of the tissues/ organs and "srotas": there is no harmful effect of the immunosuppressive action of the medicine.

" Rogastu Dosha Vaishamyam|
Dosha Samyam Arogyata||( Ashtang Hridya) which means "dosha" imbalance causes disease while their equilibrium keeps one healthy, and in this case of natural deliberate immunosuppression the dosha are programmed to protect our system.


1. Because it is available as an OTC (over the counter) medicine, i.e. without prescription of the doctor, thus it is completely safe natural Unani Ayurveda Medicine.

PS: Zinda Tilismath literally means: living magic.

2. As far as dose is concerned, the dosage of all the said ingredients is significantly lower than their toxic levels, as such it is completely safe and have no potential harmful risks or side effects.

PS. Beneficial therapeutic side effects outclass the risks of undesriable side effects [if any]

3. This medicine is an example of palliative treatment which means an example of deliberate immunosuppression wherein the medicine is trying to suppress the hyperactive components of immune system and rejuvenating the tissue by enhancing their defense mechanism.

PS. That is why we give SHODHAN [panchkarma] which is deliberate immunosupression, before giving RASAYANA [Immunomodulation] in Ayurveda.

4. Cancer, HIV, Complement deficiencies, ataxia- telangiectasia are example of non deliberate immunosuppression: since it is not achieved by administration of immunosuppressive, i.e immunosuppression is not intended and hence non deliberate.

5. Since 70% of the said medicine contains eucalyptus oil which has euclyptol as the main ingredient [class of monoterpene), and rest 30% constitute the remaining 4 herbs which are termed as GRAS (generally regarded as safe) for human use, and does not contain steroid.

As said earlier, since the medicine doesn't cause T cells or B cells deficiency, thus there is no question of affecting the T cells/ B cells.

Yes Dr. This has got me so much relieved. Thank you for all your help.

Yes Dr. XXXXXXX This has got me so much relieved. Thank you for all your help. I forwarded his information about the ingredients and the type of immunosuppression and to see if everything is ok from the HIV testing side.