Does Sleep Apnea Cause Restless Leg Syndrome?
The cause of the hypoventilation is unknown, but it leads to respiratory type 2 failure for which she needs a non-invasive ventilator at night to overcome this condition. She is borderline obese. She also has controlled hypothyroid. The CHP means that she needs some oxygen, but she doesn't need much (ie only 0.5litre/ minute). When she was initially prescribed oxygen it was given as 2 litres/ minute. This I believe tipped her into frequent acidotic states (ie. she was drowsy, started hallucinating etc). She was frequently taken into hospital for this where instead of reducing the oxygen federate, the ventilator settings were continually adjusted upwards. In addition, during this time she suffered from severe restless legs during the night which was not diagnosed.
1) Could restless legs have caused the acidotic state. ie, the frequent bouts of restlessness caused by legs beating cause her sufficient fatigue such that hypoventilation became even more severe.
2) It is noted by junior doctors that by reducing the oxygen federate, mums condition actually improved which suggests that reducing oxygen has some effect in the chemoreceptors. I read somewhere that excessive oxygen reduces the drive to breath. However, they still continued to adjust the ventilator settings upwards.
3) Eventually, the oxygen was reduced to the present 0.5litres/ minute. Nonetheless, the acidosis still continued, due to I believe the restless legs.
4) Eventually, it was me that discovered the restless legs and also discovered that only small doseages of ropinrole almost eradicated the restless legs. Since then there has been no acidosis recorded.
Therefore my question is:
a) does excessive oxygen of 2litres/ minute which is 4 times the required amount could have led to the frequent acidosis states
b) is it also possible that restless legs significantly contributed to acidosis, due to the fatigue caused by the syndrome
c) how dangerous is the acidosis condition and to what extent are pulmonary consultants aware that excessive oxygen of only 2 litres/ minute could lead to acidosis. There must be a proper way of assessing the correct doseage of oxygen rather than leaving the patient to suffer with frequent acidosis and then just making continuous adjustments to the ventilator which makes a temporary difference within a hospital environment. Please highlight what the correct way of arriving at the correct oxygen level for person with my mothers condition. Would a sleep study have helped to identify the correct doseages. This I am suggesting because I am aware th hypoventilation
Sleep apnea can cause restless leg syndrome.
Detailed Answer:
Thanks for your question on Health Care Magic.
I can understand your concern.
Restless leg syndrome is commonly seen in sleep apnea. So sleep apnea is the cause for restless leg syndrome.
And no, restless leg syndrome can not cause acidosis.
Her worsening of acidosis is likely because she is having chronic lung disease and sleep apnea both.
Both cause rise in CO 2 level (hypercarbia) and type 2 respiratory failure.
Sleep apnea is more contributing in this.
So repeat sleep study and repeat titration with CPAP will be beneficial.
Current CPAP pressure might be insufficient to keep her airways open. So co2 is not effectively breath out and hence she might be developing hypercarbic respiratory failure.
She may need higher CPAP pressure.
Regarding ventilator strategy, it is not always fixed.
Doctors need to adjust according to the patients. Ventilator settings are different for different patients.
They might be giving more oxygen for some point of time because she may developed hypoxia at that time. She is also having fibrosis, and this leads to hypoxia as well.
So she is having diseases which cause both hypoxia as well as hypercarbia.
So doctors need to adjust and change ventilatory settings according to oxygen and carbon dioxide level. In her case, I don't think any fixed ventilatory approach will work.
But repeat sleep study and repeat CPAP titration will definitely help in preventing frequent respiratory failures.
Hope I have solved your query.
I will be happy to help you further.
Wish you good health. Thanks.
can excessive oxygen which in this was 2litres/ minute could be the cause of
frequent acidosis. If you have copd, excessive oxygen can cause acidosis.
However, in this case it is an ILD which drives the hypoxia, I agree, but even in
this case, could the excessive oxygen cause the acidosis. I read somewhere the
increased oxygen reduces the respiratory drive. this combined with the sleep
apnea would lead to acidosis.
you have also said that restless leg syndrome does not cause acidosis. However,
is it not possible that the secondary effects caused by very severe restless leg syndrome (which initially could also be due to peripheral hypoxia) could cause fatigueness of the thoriac muscles, and therefore increase hypoventilation
2 liters /minute is not high flow oxygen.
Detailed Answer:
Thanks for your follow up question on HCM.
I can understand your concern.
Honestly speaking more than 5-6 lit/minute is considered as high flow oxygen.
Oxygen given at a rate of 2lit/minute is not considered as high flow.
And yes, high flow oxygen can suppress respiratory drive and hence worsen respiratory acidosis.
So I don't think 2lit /minute of oxygen causes depression of respiratory drive. It is given routinely in respiratory acidosis patients with out any trouble.
And about restless leg syndrome theory, practically this can not cause fatigue of Thoracic muscles. I have not seen this in practical life.
What I feel is, she is having worsening of sleep apnea. This is the likely cause for restless leg syndrome and respiratory failure.
Hope I have solved your query.
I will be happy to help you further.
Wish you good health. Thanks.
The important point is if 0.5litres/ minute is enough to give a rest saturation of 94% or above, why give 2 litres/ minute.
Mum's condition is such that she de-saturates on exertion, ie whilst walking and whilst sleeping due to the apnea, which is why she needed the oxygen. The 0.5 litres/ minute is sufficient for her to compensate during sleep.
What I find troubling about your answer, is that you say that 2litres/ minute is given routinely. So although this be suitable for a vast number of patients, in mum's case due to her 'hypoventilation' which I believe could also be true during
awake periods, it would be necessary to be very careful with the oxygen. You have not mentioned the effects of hypoventilation.
How would you test for hypoventilation during the awake and sleep periods. Is this simply the blood gas tests?
If she is maintaining with 0.5 lit /min then no need to give 2 lit/min.
Detailed Answer:
Thanks for your follow up question on HCM.
I can understand your concern.
I am sorry. But if she is maintaining with 0.5 lit /min then no need to give 2 lit /min.
And baseline target saturation in such patients is 91-92 %.
So no need to give 2lit /minute if resting saturation is 94%with 0.5 lit /min.
And this might cause depression of respiratory drive. But I am not sure about it.
Hypoventilation causes carbon dioxide retention. And raised carbon dioxide cause all the symptoms like tremors, palpitations, headache, feverish feeling, coma, sedation etc.
And direct measurement of Hypoventilation is possible with sleep study. But indirect measurement can be done by blood gas analysis (measuring carbon dioxide).
Hope I have solved your query.
I will be happy to help you further.
Wish you good health. Thanks.
the etiology of restless leg syndrome is multi-faceted and neurological. If mum already had long standing problems with restless legs then the above is not true. What actually has happened is that on administration of the drug ropinrole, the restless legs have been compensated for. Ever since the administration of such a drug three years ago, the problem of acidosis has not come up on any hospital admission.
This suggests to me, that the sleep apnea has not worsened and that ventilation
without taking into account restless legs (ie compensating for) would have continued to lead to restless legs, although it is not clear how restless legs on its
own affects ventilation. I believe it could be a neurological thing which affected
respiratory drive and hence the hypoventilation, but this is just a belief,
based on my observations. I'm not a medic
Sorry to say but I am not able to understand your follow up query.
Detailed Answer:
Thanks for your follow up question on HCM.
Sorry to say but I am not able to understand your last follow up question.
You mean to say that the restless leg syndrome is controlled with ropinorole since last three years. And during this three years, acidosis was not detected in any of the hospital admission.
But she is still having hypoventilation.
Am I correctly understood?
I will be happy to help you further.
Wishing good health to your mother. Thanks.