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Question: Hi
I'm studying a case study in regard of Rheumatology
and I have some questions to ask

I assume this patient has rheumatoid arthritis, systemic sclerosis, Sjogren's syndrome, and Raynaud's disease

Because he had pains in joints and abnormality in joints in x-ray, I thought he has rheumatoid arthritis.
Also, he has dryness in eyes and mouth and positive result on anti salivary duct antibody test. so I thought he has Sjogren's syndrome.
but my friend says he does not have rheumatoid arthritis and sjogren's syndrome.
which one is right?

or does he needs further investigations to confirm those disease?
and are there any other diseases that can related to symptoms and test results?

the case is below

thank you





Mr Black, aged 64, a retired process worker presented at his GP’s surgery with a fairly complex array of complaints and symptoms. He complained of general aches and pains in his joints over the last few months, mainly affecting his wrists and ankles. He had breathlessness and a persistent cough which had developed over several months. He had put this down to ‘arthritis and advancing years’. He then noticed that the tips of his fingers were becoming whitened and his fingers had begun to feel cold. He states that the skin on his fingers and hands seemed to becoming tighter, and the wrinkles seemed to be disappearing from his hands. In the last few weeks the fingers on his left hand had started to become at first discoloured and had become increasingly blackened.
On further questioning by the doctor, Mr Black complained of dryness and soreness of the mouth and eyes, and reported an increasing difficulty in swallowing (dysphagia). He was also embarrassed to admit that he had become increasingly flatulent and had suffered fairly severe diarrhoea in the last few weeks, followed by spells of constipation, before his presentation at the surgery.
A number of blood samples were taken for laboratory investigation and Mr Black was referred to the local hospital for X-ray investigation. At the hospital a skin biopsy sample was also taken for processing and investigation:

Full blood count: All parameters were within the normal range
Erythrocyte Sedimentation Rate: 35 mm/hr
Serum electrophoresis: Indicated a marked, polyclonal, hypergammaglobulinaemia.
Serum Immunoglobulin levels: IgG = 35 g/l, IgA = 8 g/l, IgM = 12 g/l
X-Rays: ‘Arthritic’ joints showed a thickening of the periarticular soft tissues and juxta-articular osteoporosis. A grey mass was seen in the inferior lobe of the left lung.
Urine examination: Proteinuria.
Skin biopsy analysis: Shows a thinning of the epidermis with an accumulation of collagen within the reticular dermis. Arteriolar fibrosis was also evident. Also a lymphocytic infiltration was noted perivascularly (this was graded as mild). No further immunohistochemistry was done but these are assumed to be macrophages.
Autoantibody screen:
a)Anti Nuclear Antibody = Positive at a titre of 1/320. This antibody showed an anti-nucleolar pattern of staining on immunofluorescence.
b) Anti Salivary Duct antibody: Positive
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Follow up: Dr. Divya Agarwal (0 minute later)
Hi
I'm studying a case study in regard of Rheumatology
and I have some questions to ask

I assume this patient has rheumatoid arthritis, systemic sclerosis, Sjogren's syndrome, and Raynaud's disease

Because he had pains in joints and abnormality in joints in x-ray, I thought he has rheumatoid arthritis.
Also, he has dryness in eyes and mouth and positive result on anti salivary duct antibody test. so I thought he has Sjogren's syndrome.
but my friend says he does not have rheumatoid arthritis and sjogren's syndrome.
which one is right?

or does he needs further investigations to confirm those disease?
and are there any other diseases that can related to symptoms and test results?

the case is below

thank you





Mr Black, aged 64, a retired process worker presented at his GP’s surgery with a fairly complex array of complaints and symptoms. He complained of general aches and pains in his joints over the last few months, mainly affecting his wrists and ankles. He had breathlessness and a persistent cough which had developed over several months. He had put this down to ‘arthritis and advancing years’. He then noticed that the tips of his fingers were becoming whitened and his fingers had begun to feel cold. He states that the skin on his fingers and hands seemed to becoming tighter, and the wrinkles seemed to be disappearing from his hands. In the last few weeks the fingers on his left hand had started to become at first discoloured and had become increasingly blackened.
On further questioning by the doctor, Mr Black complained of dryness and soreness of the mouth and eyes, and reported an increasing difficulty in swallowing (dysphagia). He was also embarrassed to admit that he had become increasingly flatulent and had suffered fairly severe diarrhoea in the last few weeks, followed by spells of constipation, before his presentation at the surgery.
A number of blood samples were taken for laboratory investigation and Mr Black was referred to the local hospital for X-ray investigation. At the hospital a skin biopsy sample was also taken for processing and investigation:

Full blood count: All parameters were within the normal range
Erythrocyte Sedimentation Rate: 35 mm/hr
Serum electrophoresis: Indicated a marked, polyclonal, hypergammaglobulinaemia.
Serum Immunoglobulin levels: IgG = 35 g/l, IgA = 8 g/l, IgM = 12 g/l
X-Rays: ‘Arthritic’ joints showed a thickening of the periarticular soft tissues and juxta-articular osteoporosis. A grey mass was seen in the inferior lobe of the left lung.
Urine examination: Proteinuria.
Skin biopsy analysis: Shows a thinning of the epidermis with an accumulation of collagen within the reticular dermis. Arteriolar fibrosis was also evident. Also a lymphocytic infiltration was noted perivascularly (this was graded as mild). No further immunohistochemistry was done but these are assumed to be macrophages.
Autoantibody screen:
a)Anti Nuclear Antibody = Positive at a titre of 1/320. This antibody showed an anti-nucleolar pattern of staining on immunofluorescence.
b) Anti Salivary Duct antibody: Positive
doctor
Answered by Dr. Divya Agarwal (2 hours later)
Brief Answer:
Systemic sclerosis

Detailed Answer:
Hi
This is a case of systemic sclerosis or scleroderma .
These patients can have joint pains / arthritis
Tightening of skin
Raynauds phenomenon
Dry cough/interstitial lung disease
Gi disturbances diarrhea or flatulence or dysphagia.
So it is neither rheumatoid arthritis nor sjogrens syndrome.
Ana and other antibodies may be positive in this disease.
Regards
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Yogesh D
doctor
doctor
Answered by Dr. Divya Agarwal (0 minute later)
Brief Answer:
Systemic sclerosis

Detailed Answer:
Hi
This is a case of systemic sclerosis or scleroderma .
These patients can have joint pains / arthritis
Tightening of skin
Raynauds phenomenon
Dry cough/interstitial lung disease
Gi disturbances diarrhea or flatulence or dysphagia.
So it is neither rheumatoid arthritis nor sjogrens syndrome.
Ana and other antibodies may be positive in this disease.
Regards
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Yogesh D
doctor
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Follow up: Dr. Divya Agarwal (36 minutes later)
thank you for the reply
i wnat to ask
if it's neither rheumatoid arthritis nor sjogrens syndrome, then how can I interpret dryness of mouth and eyes and abnormality in x-ray??
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Follow up: Dr. Divya Agarwal (0 minute later)
thank you for the reply
i wnat to ask
if it's neither rheumatoid arthritis nor sjogrens syndrome, then how can I interpret dryness of mouth and eyes and abnormality in x-ray??
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Follow up: Dr. Divya Agarwal (8 hours later)
so this case is not related to neither rheumatoid arthritis nor sjogrens syndrome at all?
or do i need further investigations??
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Follow up: Dr. Divya Agarwal (0 minute later)
so this case is not related to neither rheumatoid arthritis nor sjogrens syndrome at all?
or do i need further investigations??
doctor
Answered by Dr. Divya Agarwal (52 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
See below

Detailed Answer:
Hi
These diseases have overlapping symptoms.
So there can be arthritic changes and dryness even without other symptoms or antibodies.
We need to see the predominant symptoms ,signs and antibodies.
That will give us the diagnosis.
Regards
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Raju A.T
doctor
doctor
Answered by Dr. Divya Agarwal (0 minute later)
Brief Answer:
See below

Detailed Answer:
Hi
These diseases have overlapping symptoms.
So there can be arthritic changes and dryness even without other symptoms or antibodies.
We need to see the predominant symptoms ,signs and antibodies.
That will give us the diagnosis.
Regards
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Raju A.T
doctor
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Follow up: Dr. Divya Agarwal (3 days later)
thank you

does he need further test to proceed to treatment??
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Follow up: Dr. Divya Agarwal (0 minute later)
thank you

does he need further test to proceed to treatment??
doctor
Answered by Dr. Divya Agarwal (36 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
See below

Detailed Answer:
Hi
It would be a good idea to get a ct chest and 2d echo .
Also an extractable nuclear antigen.
Regards
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Yogesh D
doctor
doctor
Answered by Dr. Divya Agarwal (0 minute later)
Brief Answer:
See below

Detailed Answer:
Hi
It would be a good idea to get a ct chest and 2d echo .
Also an extractable nuclear antigen.
Regards
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Yogesh D
doctor
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Follow up: Dr. Divya Agarwal (2 hours later)
thank you

for the treatment options, I suggested these

NSAIDs for joints pain
CCB for Raynaud's
bosentan for digital ulcers
Cyclophosphamide and mycophenolate for the lung
D-penicillamine for fibrosis
ACEi, and ARB for kidney

are these right treatments?
or is it too much?
or there should be a change?
or should there be more drugs?

Regards
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Follow up: Dr. Divya Agarwal (0 minute later)
thank you

for the treatment options, I suggested these

NSAIDs for joints pain
CCB for Raynaud's
bosentan for digital ulcers
Cyclophosphamide and mycophenolate for the lung
D-penicillamine for fibrosis
ACEi, and ARB for kidney

are these right treatments?
or is it too much?
or there should be a change?
or should there be more drugs?

Regards
doctor
Answered by Dr. Divya Agarwal (38 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
See below

Detailed Answer:
Yes however penicillamine is rarely used now.
Either cyclophosphamide or mycophenolate maybe used for lung.
Sometimes steroids may be used.
Also proton pump inhibitors may be added for gi.
Supplementation with calcium,vitamin d and folic acid must be done .
Regards
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Yogesh D
doctor
doctor
Answered by Dr. Divya Agarwal (0 minute later)
Brief Answer:
See below

Detailed Answer:
Yes however penicillamine is rarely used now.
Either cyclophosphamide or mycophenolate maybe used for lung.
Sometimes steroids may be used.
Also proton pump inhibitors may be added for gi.
Supplementation with calcium,vitamin d and folic acid must be done .
Regards
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Yogesh D
doctor
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Follow up: Dr. Divya Agarwal (10 hours later)
thank you

may I ask why is it must to take supplementation?

regards
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Follow up: Dr. Divya Agarwal (0 minute later)
thank you

may I ask why is it must to take supplementation?

regards
doctor
Answered by Dr. Divya Agarwal (52 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
see below

Detailed Answer:
folic acid ,vitamin d is recommended with anti rheumatic drugs, calcium is recommended as the patient may be on steroids.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Nagamani Ng
doctor
doctor
Answered by Dr. Divya Agarwal (0 minute later)
Brief Answer:
see below

Detailed Answer:
folic acid ,vitamin d is recommended with anti rheumatic drugs, calcium is recommended as the patient may be on steroids.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Nagamani Ng
doctor
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Follow up: Dr. Divya Agarwal (9 hours later)
Thank you

I have a question

do NSAID and PPI can be used together?

Regards
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Follow up: Dr. Divya Agarwal (0 minute later)
Thank you

I have a question

do NSAID and PPI can be used together?

Regards
doctor
Answered by Dr. Divya Agarwal (3 hours later)
Brief Answer:
please see below

Detailed Answer:
Yes, we do give NSAIDs, and PPIs to take care of the gastritis that they cause.

Regards


Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Arnab Banerjee
doctor
doctor
Answered by Dr. Divya Agarwal (0 minute later)
Brief Answer:
please see below

Detailed Answer:
Yes, we do give NSAIDs, and PPIs to take care of the gastritis that they cause.

Regards

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Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Arnab Banerjee
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Hi I'm studying a case study in regard of Rheumatology and I have some questions to ask I assume this patient has rheumatoid arthritis, systemic sclerosis, Sjogren's syndrome, and Raynaud's disease Because he had pains in joints and abnormality in joints in x-ray, I thought he has rheumatoid arthritis. Also, he has dryness in eyes and mouth and positive result on anti salivary duct antibody test. so I thought he has Sjogren's syndrome. but my friend says he does not have rheumatoid arthritis and sjogren's syndrome. which one is right? or does he needs further investigations to confirm those disease? and are there any other diseases that can related to symptoms and test results? the case is below thank you Mr Black, aged 64, a retired process worker presented at his GP’s surgery with a fairly complex array of complaints and symptoms. He complained of general aches and pains in his joints over the last few months, mainly affecting his wrists and ankles. He had breathlessness and a persistent cough which had developed over several months. He had put this down to ‘arthritis and advancing years’. He then noticed that the tips of his fingers were becoming whitened and his fingers had begun to feel cold. He states that the skin on his fingers and hands seemed to becoming tighter, and the wrinkles seemed to be disappearing from his hands. In the last few weeks the fingers on his left hand had started to become at first discoloured and had become increasingly blackened. On further questioning by the doctor, Mr Black complained of dryness and soreness of the mouth and eyes, and reported an increasing difficulty in swallowing (dysphagia). He was also embarrassed to admit that he had become increasingly flatulent and had suffered fairly severe diarrhoea in the last few weeks, followed by spells of constipation, before his presentation at the surgery. A number of blood samples were taken for laboratory investigation and Mr Black was referred to the local hospital for X-ray investigation. At the hospital a skin biopsy sample was also taken for processing and investigation: Full blood count: All parameters were within the normal range Erythrocyte Sedimentation Rate: 35 mm/hr Serum electrophoresis: Indicated a marked, polyclonal, hypergammaglobulinaemia. Serum Immunoglobulin levels: IgG = 35 g/l, IgA = 8 g/l, IgM = 12 g/l X-Rays: ‘Arthritic’ joints showed a thickening of the periarticular soft tissues and juxta-articular osteoporosis. A grey mass was seen in the inferior lobe of the left lung. Urine examination: Proteinuria. Skin biopsy analysis: Shows a thinning of the epidermis with an accumulation of collagen within the reticular dermis. Arteriolar fibrosis was also evident. Also a lymphocytic infiltration was noted perivascularly (this was graded as mild). No further immunohistochemistry was done but these are assumed to be macrophages. Autoantibody screen: a)Anti Nuclear Antibody = Positive at a titre of 1/320. This antibody showed an anti-nucleolar pattern of staining on immunofluorescence. b) Anti Salivary Duct antibody: Positive