Suggest Treatment For Headaches While On Lamictal And Effexor
Dizziness and irritability (I assume from the discontinuation of effexor) became difficult to deal with at work, so I took 5mgs of Celexa, knowing that it has a longer half life and would make the "comedown" smoother. Within hours most of the dizziness was gone as was the impairment from the Trileptal. Mood was significantly better and I even felt a little overstimulated.
I have since read that Trileptal can increase Celexa levels in the blood to dangerous levels regarding cardiovascular problems. Is 5mgs of Celexa a problem? I am also taking Prilosec which does something similar in combination with Celexa
Another question: I've heard of people taking much less than the recommended 1200 mgs of trileptal effectively. Does it make sense for me to keep increasing the Trileptal if I'm already feeling tired and impaired on it? Some drugs have a lower side effect profile at higher doses and I'm not sure if Trileptal is one.
I am also weaning off the Lamictal as I find it doesn't mix well with Celexa. And the side effects of having two anti-seizure meds are compounded.
Thank you
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Detailed Answer:
Hello and thanks for your question.
I agree you should pick one antiepileptic medication and stick with it. Trileptal and Prilosec will not increase Celexa 5mg to dangerous levels. Regarding Celexa use, Celexa 5mg is actually MORE medication than Effexor 37.5mg, so I would avoid using either of these if your goal is to be off an antidepressant. Regarding need to increase Trileptal, it depends -- what is Trileptal treating? If it is treating bipolar depression, it is a maintenance medication, and needs to be at the recommended therapeutic dose to be effective. If side effects are intolerable at higher doses, you will need to choose a different medication.
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Not exactly sure where I'm headed honestly. I've experienced some level of depression, anxiety, and distraction/concentration issues since I can remember; There is a strong possibility of BP II or borderline (or both, hard to tell). I've never been able to do more than 6 months without some kind of med
Effexor was my last ditch before trying something second-line or hosptializing myself and stripping all meds away, start fresh, and do intensive therapy. That said I'm very high-functioning (medicated) just super sensitive to emotional/cognitive side effects.
Effexor made lifted me out of the suicidal rumination hole, but made me feel extremely cold and distant. Concentration/distraction and ability to study was much better than Celexa (old treatment). Sleep problems and the coldness made me decide to switch. Mr. doctor and I saw two approaches: replace or increase the Lamictal (for either the BPII or BPD) or go with an MAOI, which I favored due to the lower Side effect profile in terms of mental/emotional blunting.
I decided the Trileptal would be the less "drastic" measure as I can no longer tolerate higher doses of Lamictal. I described my experience to date in the first email. I am trying to ride out the effexor discontinuation and evaluate the trileptal.
The effexor with the Trileptal seemed to result in deep depression so I held off taking the trileptal until the effexor was done. I'm torn between using the trileptal to help with the anxiety and social reactivity, along with something for the depression (if necessary) and just washing out and trying Parnate (first choice) or Nardil (second choice).
Strangely my mood and motivation felt great when I went down on my effexor to half or quarter dose, but concentration/distraction became very hard as did regulating my excitability. Mood-wise I would have loved to stay where I was at.
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Detailed Answer:
The way you describe your symptoms and response to medications, it is very likely you do not have bipolar 2, and instead have BPD. BPD does not respond well to medications, and your lack of sustained response with any medication is consistent with this. Trileptal as well as all antidepressants including MAOi's have no evidence base for use in BPD, and essentially no efficacy in bipolar 2 either, so overall I would recommend getting of all medications and entering intensive therapy, such as DBT.
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