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What Causes Blisters In The Mouth While Treating HSV-1?
Question: Hello, I have a boyfriend who I recently broke up with. He had herpes 1 virus (cold sores) since I met him. He usually get the blister inside his mouth. I remember always not kissing him while he has any blister or anything inside his mouth. During our three years relationship I didn't get it fromhim thanks God. I broke up with him three months ago.
After we broke up, he had a one day relationship with someone. He didn't tell me about it. Anyways the last couple of weeks he was trying to get back to me but I refused since he has a history of lying and cheating without sexual contact (like cheating with Skype or text messages etc). In the beginning of our relationship he gave me chlamydia, which was something new to me as I was divorced with a daughter after 11 years of marriage and my ex husband didn't have any STD.
So after that I made him do full tests and he came back negative in all things, even in chlamydia since he was treated. He was only positive to herpes 1 since he says he has it since childhood, but he was negative on herpes 2 (using the antibody test) and we had a three years relationship and he didn't cheat on me during that time. By confidence he repeated the herpes tests in March right when I broke up with him cause he was doing check ups and still he was positive in herpes 1 and negative in herpes 2.
Anyways, a week ago he told me he had a blister near his knee, and that when he saw the doctor, he told him its herpes 1. Well he did the antibody test again three days ago and it showed he is positive in both herpes 1 and 2 !!! however the result showed that herpes 1 is active so the blister near his knee was from herpes 1 the doctor said.
This how the result reads: Elisa method: herpes 1 : 104.3
herpes 2 : 6.0
Reference ranges they put on the test result : less than 0.9 negative
more than 0.9 positive
also it says Normal: less than 20 U/ml
Borderline: 20-25 U/ml
Elevated: more than 25 U/ml
Which I assumed meant he is positive in both 1 and 2, but 1 is elevated (active ?) and 2 id not active.
Well yesterday I was with him and I didn't know about these results. He came to my house, and tried to hug me. I knew he had herpes 1, but I thought its on the knee so I didn't really thought about it. He was wearing pants so it was not exposed. He removed part of my t-shirt and sucked my nipple, which I felt was disgusting, and not a nice way to get back, so I told him to stop. He said I'm sorry I thought you like it. Then he gave me a small dry kiss on my lips, just a quick one. Again I told him please no kissing. Then he said oh that's the first time you kiss me while I'm having herpes 1, so thats a change. Well I didn't notice cause in the back of my mind it was on his knee.
Then I told him something, I said just act like a man, and he was joking and exposed his penis, but he didn't touch me with it, and I didn't touch his penis. He just exposed it and I told him, stop put back your pants. And thats all what happened yesterday. There was nothing else of any contact. Then we went to the car, i wanted to take him to his home, and while in the car, he said I don't why I got a number on herpes 2, and that where I had a pain in my stomach out of shock, he said the number and I told him it sounds you have antibodies to herpes 2 !!!! you where negative until the breakup, if you had sexual contact with someone tell me, so he said he had with one girl but didn't have genital or oral sex just touching !
He sent me the results after he arrived home. I am completely pissed off of this guy, I am really really angry, what kind of luck to see him this last time while he has all that, I told him how come you do that with a stranger !!! I am so angry and afraid.
Now here is my concern, what are the chances that I get herpes 2 from the contact I described ? He contracted it after our breakup and I never slept with him or had any sexual contact since breakup except for this quick dry kiss on the lips yesterday. I though maybe when he touched his penis then he touched me he may have transmit it ?
Also if the antibody count reads 6 (Normal range but still positive right ?) does it means it is dormant and he can in no way transmit it to me.
Now let's go to herpes 1 :(((, what also are the chances that he gave it to me when he suck my nipple and when he gave me a quick dry kiss on my lips ? :(( I am really angry this guy is only trouble I should have trusted my instincts about him :(, if the outbreak is near his knee, can he still have viral shedding in his mouth ? cause he didn't have any blister in his mouth
Please help I am super worried :( why are my risks for 1 and 2 based on this description
After we broke up, he had a one day relationship with someone. He didn't tell me about it. Anyways the last couple of weeks he was trying to get back to me but I refused since he has a history of lying and cheating without sexual contact (like cheating with Skype or text messages etc). In the beginning of our relationship he gave me chlamydia, which was something new to me as I was divorced with a daughter after 11 years of marriage and my ex husband didn't have any STD.
So after that I made him do full tests and he came back negative in all things, even in chlamydia since he was treated. He was only positive to herpes 1 since he says he has it since childhood, but he was negative on herpes 2 (using the antibody test) and we had a three years relationship and he didn't cheat on me during that time. By confidence he repeated the herpes tests in March right when I broke up with him cause he was doing check ups and still he was positive in herpes 1 and negative in herpes 2.
Anyways, a week ago he told me he had a blister near his knee, and that when he saw the doctor, he told him its herpes 1. Well he did the antibody test again three days ago and it showed he is positive in both herpes 1 and 2 !!! however the result showed that herpes 1 is active so the blister near his knee was from herpes 1 the doctor said.
This how the result reads: Elisa method: herpes 1 : 104.3
herpes 2 : 6.0
Reference ranges they put on the test result : less than 0.9 negative
more than 0.9 positive
also it says Normal: less than 20 U/ml
Borderline: 20-25 U/ml
Elevated: more than 25 U/ml
Which I assumed meant he is positive in both 1 and 2, but 1 is elevated (active ?) and 2 id not active.
Well yesterday I was with him and I didn't know about these results. He came to my house, and tried to hug me. I knew he had herpes 1, but I thought its on the knee so I didn't really thought about it. He was wearing pants so it was not exposed. He removed part of my t-shirt and sucked my nipple, which I felt was disgusting, and not a nice way to get back, so I told him to stop. He said I'm sorry I thought you like it. Then he gave me a small dry kiss on my lips, just a quick one. Again I told him please no kissing. Then he said oh that's the first time you kiss me while I'm having herpes 1, so thats a change. Well I didn't notice cause in the back of my mind it was on his knee.
Then I told him something, I said just act like a man, and he was joking and exposed his penis, but he didn't touch me with it, and I didn't touch his penis. He just exposed it and I told him, stop put back your pants. And thats all what happened yesterday. There was nothing else of any contact. Then we went to the car, i wanted to take him to his home, and while in the car, he said I don't why I got a number on herpes 2, and that where I had a pain in my stomach out of shock, he said the number and I told him it sounds you have antibodies to herpes 2 !!!! you where negative until the breakup, if you had sexual contact with someone tell me, so he said he had with one girl but didn't have genital or oral sex just touching !
He sent me the results after he arrived home. I am completely pissed off of this guy, I am really really angry, what kind of luck to see him this last time while he has all that, I told him how come you do that with a stranger !!! I am so angry and afraid.
Now here is my concern, what are the chances that I get herpes 2 from the contact I described ? He contracted it after our breakup and I never slept with him or had any sexual contact since breakup except for this quick dry kiss on the lips yesterday. I though maybe when he touched his penis then he touched me he may have transmit it ?
Also if the antibody count reads 6 (Normal range but still positive right ?) does it means it is dormant and he can in no way transmit it to me.
Now let's go to herpes 1 :(((, what also are the chances that he gave it to me when he suck my nipple and when he gave me a quick dry kiss on my lips ? :(( I am really angry this guy is only trouble I should have trusted my instincts about him :(, if the outbreak is near his knee, can he still have viral shedding in his mouth ? cause he didn't have any blister in his mouth
Please help I am super worried :( why are my risks for 1 and 2 based on this description
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Brief Answer:
I think you are safe
Detailed Answer:
Hello. Thank you for writing to us
I am dr.kakkar(dermatologist and venereologist). I have gone through your query and i have noted your concern.
According to the test i think he is negative for hsv 2. The test reference range says <25U/ml is normal. Normal means no infection.
Can you upload the test report?
As far as the nature of contact is concerned it was safe. Though herpes type 1 can be transmited through kissing but a short dry peck on lip is safe and moreover since the virus cannot penetrate intact skin(it can penetrate mucosa but not intact skin) therefore sucking nipples carries a very low risk/negligible risk, more so if he did not had any active sores/ outbreak of herpes at the time of contact and unless you had a skin break on nipples you are safe. So it would be safe to assume that he did not gave you hsv 1.
Herpes is a local infection and having herpes outbreak on legs/knee (which is a bit of an unusual site for herpes) anyways does nt make him infectious or more infectious through his mouth.
Regards
I think you are safe
Detailed Answer:
Hello. Thank you for writing to us
I am dr.kakkar(dermatologist and venereologist). I have gone through your query and i have noted your concern.
According to the test i think he is negative for hsv 2. The test reference range says <25U/ml is normal. Normal means no infection.
Can you upload the test report?
As far as the nature of contact is concerned it was safe. Though herpes type 1 can be transmited through kissing but a short dry peck on lip is safe and moreover since the virus cannot penetrate intact skin(it can penetrate mucosa but not intact skin) therefore sucking nipples carries a very low risk/negligible risk, more so if he did not had any active sores/ outbreak of herpes at the time of contact and unless you had a skin break on nipples you are safe. So it would be safe to assume that he did not gave you hsv 1.
Herpes is a local infection and having herpes outbreak on legs/knee (which is a bit of an unusual site for herpes) anyways does nt make him infectious or more infectious through his mouth.
Regards
Above answer was peer-reviewed by :
Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
Dear Dr. Kakkar,
Thank you for your email. it eased my worries , I want to attach the test result but there is no attach button, is there any other way ?
actually i just uploaded it , it shows that only below 0.9 is negative, does the above and below 20 values mean active inactive ?
cause if he is inactive on herpes 2 , means even less likely he gave it to me.and also in case report shows he is positive in herpes 2, can he give it to me by touching his penis then touching me on normal skin, not mocusa ?Hello ? dr.Kakkar, are you there ?
Thank you for your email. it eased my worries , I want to attach the test result but there is no attach button, is there any other way ?
actually i just uploaded it , it shows that only below 0.9 is negative, does the above and below 20 values mean active inactive ?
cause if he is inactive on herpes 2 , means even less likely he gave it to me.and also in case report shows he is positive in herpes 2, can he give it to me by touching his penis then touching me on normal skin, not mocusa ?Hello ? dr.Kakkar, are you there ?
Brief Answer:
You are safe
Detailed Answer:
Hi.
He is negative for herpes 2 according to this test. The test value in this particular test reports i/e 6U/ml for Hsv 2, is compared against the reference figures given in U/ml (i.e normal, borderline and elevated). Whereas, 0.9 are index values which are actually not measured here.
Even if he was Hsv 2 positive, the kind of contact you mention, would not lead to transmission.
Regards
You are safe
Detailed Answer:
Hi.
He is negative for herpes 2 according to this test. The test value in this particular test reports i/e 6U/ml for Hsv 2, is compared against the reference figures given in U/ml (i.e normal, borderline and elevated). Whereas, 0.9 are index values which are actually not measured here.
Even if he was Hsv 2 positive, the kind of contact you mention, would not lead to transmission.
Regards
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Above answer was peer-reviewed by :
Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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