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What Causes Severe Vaginal Bleeding When Previously Diagnosed With Endometriosis?

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Posted on Mon, 13 Jul 2015
Question: I am a 34 y/o female with a hx of endometriosis, s/p TAH-BSO 2001 and numerous abdominal surgeries for the endo and adhesions including several vaginal cuff excisions and ablations due to ongoing vaginal bleeding for the past 14yrs. I had cauterization with silver nitrate of my vaginal cuff this past Wed (which I routinely need done) due to ongoing bleeding.

I have passed several brown/black clots, as usual for this proceedure but I continue to bleed. I was going through a pad/hr yesterday but it slowed today. The cramping is really bad though , approx 9/10 on the pain scale and I usually don't have such severe pain 3 days out from the proceedure.

Could it just be taking longer to heal this time? I don't want to go to the ER unless it is absolutely necessary. I work at the hospital and if I can get through the weekend I can see my dr on Monday. Do you think I need to see someone before Monday? My Drs usually tell me if the pain is that severe I should go to the ED. I was hoping there would be an alternative though to spending all night and all day for them to tell me to see my dr on Monday. Any thoughts? Thank you, XXXXXXX
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Answered by Dr. Manisha Jain (29 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
Precautions advised

Detailed Answer:
Hello XXXXXXX thanks for trusting health care magic.
So sad to read all your suffering so far and the pain you are going through.
In my opinion you definitely should see your doctor on Monday as the severe pain which is unusual for you is definitely a concern.
Get injection Tramadol and tablet tranexemic acid and take them thrice a day till Monday.
Along with that take wet heat therapy via hot water bottle as many times as possible.
In general lie down in prone position and you will feel better with slight elevation of the foot end of the bed.
These are simple measures but will be really helpful in relieving both pain and bleeding.
Along with these keep taking the routine medicines you are having.
I would like you to discuss sacral neurectomy with your doctor which will help in relief from this pain to a large extent.
In case you have any questions about it, I will be glad to answer.

Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Manisha Jain (1 hour later)
Thank you Dr. XXXXXXX It is reassuring to know I don't have to rush to the ED.

Unfortunately I am in the 1% of cases that do not respond to any treatment.
The endo was dx in 1995 as stage 4 at age 14. I then required laparoscopy every 6 mos for excision. We tried every combination of hormonal therapy including Lupron as high as 22.5mg inj qmonth and synarel. They did try a presacral neurectomy in 2000 prior to making the decision about the TAH-BSO, but the sx still persisted. Initially we tried to preserve one ovary but my gyn onc had to close and go back in 2wks later for the other ovary. It was adhered to the anterior abd wall and had several large endometriomas attached. The path report on both ovaries indicated that there was not only endo on the outside but the endometrial cells has filled the inside of the ovary and some cells had characteristics similar to pre-ovarian cancer cells.

Since 2001 no one has been able to stop the bleeding from the vaginal cuff despite multiple cuff ablations and 2 cuff revisions with excision. The endo still grows back after approx 1-2yrs post laparoscopy to excise the endo. It is mostly involved with the intestines and has caused severe
Adhesions where my intestines are fused to my abd wall. I've been told that it is likely microscopic endo causing the cuff bleeding, but they can't resect the cuff any further and the best I've been told all they can do is cauterize with silver nitrate and if that doesn't work bring me in for an ablation of the cuff in the OR.

I've read some articles that research is being done on whether aromatase inhibitors could help treat endo since endo is dependent on estrogen. My dr did not want to take me off the estrogen since I am so young. I am on a low dose 0.5mg of Estradiol.

It would be one thing to deal with spotting all the time but the bad cramping with bleeding though a pad/hr makes it difficult to function. I am bleeding for approx 75% of the month rand I was told I am anemic. Have you ever heard of this happening from the vaginal cuff and if so is there anyway to stop the bleeding (and the pain associated. Thanks so much for your advise! XXXX
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Answered by Dr. Manisha Jain (14 hours later)
Brief Answer:
Chemotherapy treatment advised

Detailed Answer:
Hi XXXXXXX sorry for the delay in response but I was reading whole day and have discussed it with several other doctors and the best I have come across is the low dose methotrexate or 5- FC use (chemotherapy drugs used in cancer treatment).
In my opinion visit an oncologist and take all your reports along.
I have read almost 30-35 articles as yours is a very complicated case because of your age and severity of symptoms.
Just discuss these aspects with an oncologist and let me know his opinion over this issue.
One additional symptomatic relief giving option is epidural pain killer therapy but that is just a symptomatic relief to which you will habituate eventually but still worth a try.
Waiting for your response
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What Causes Severe Vaginal Bleeding When Previously Diagnosed With Endometriosis?

Brief Answer: Precautions advised Detailed Answer: Hello XXXXXXX thanks for trusting health care magic. So sad to read all your suffering so far and the pain you are going through. In my opinion you definitely should see your doctor on Monday as the severe pain which is unusual for you is definitely a concern. Get injection Tramadol and tablet tranexemic acid and take them thrice a day till Monday. Along with that take wet heat therapy via hot water bottle as many times as possible. In general lie down in prone position and you will feel better with slight elevation of the foot end of the bed. These are simple measures but will be really helpful in relieving both pain and bleeding. Along with these keep taking the routine medicines you are having. I would like you to discuss sacral neurectomy with your doctor which will help in relief from this pain to a large extent. In case you have any questions about it, I will be glad to answer.