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Question: I had old MRI compared to new an the radiologist scrutinized knowing my pain issues, surgeries, and symptoms - XXXXXXX - in small intestine;had MRI of pelvis which should show, from passing huge bms's compromised bladder sling and rectal prolapse. If there is anyone who can give more advice, I certainly will appreciate it. I believe one doctor mentioned XXXXXXX at one point and I know an enterography was recommended which I'm having Tuesday. Had the doctors on this site taken the time to think this through, I would not have recommended the extra tests.
When I say pain, not only is it in my abdomen which started after the hernia repair; it is at tailbone area; "capping of colon" and I pulled something its seems, on side where colon is connected to side of rectum.
I don't believe anyone can have quality of life in the pain that I am experiencing. I fear the "fix" but living like this is not truly living. The pain starts in the ascending and I'm doubled over until it passes. Such huge amounts did pull area as mentioned above and my bladder has been affected.
If anyone has any more advise, I 'd appreciate it. Mesh covers my abdomen and breathing issues began as did the motility issues. This has been a nightmare because drugs were the only treatment - which it took me requesting withdrawal and leaving the place that chose to ignore new symptoms and only treat me as if I still had MVA pain which I do not.
I received an answer which gave me little hope. I'm sure the doctor who gave answer meant no harm, but I know my body, the changes made and the pain and pulling that is excruciating. Literally from the top of the abdominal mesh to area where colon was removed and hernia repaired
If it not for the advice given from this site, I'd be left destroying any chance of getting better
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Answered by Dr. Dr. Matt Wachsman (3 hours later)
Brief Answer:
sorry, clin pharmacologist...

Detailed Answer:
so, I'm gong to HAVE to mention drugs. Signs of bowel motility issues would include, not normal bowel movements, spasm pain, bloating. Happens due to scar tissue (I'm sure everyone has mentioned this).
Surgical treatment and changing the mesh is really fraught. There has to be healing after surgery and then there is the LIKELIHOOD of new scar.
Then there is the treatment of the bowel contents to make them move easier and with less being caught up and involved in spasm. Stool bulk and softening and increasing liquid content of stool (people REally should have mentioned this).
Then, here's what I can add. First, narcotics are a bad idea. They literally put the bowel to sleep and can only make bowel movement worse. People who have narcotic complications on bowel recently had a few new drugs approved in the US that are narcotic blockers that only work inside of the gut and are designed to stop narcotics locking up gut motility. Haven't had anyone who needed it yet, so I cannot say if this drug works at all.
THen....... main thing..... there's a lot of non-narcotic drugs for gut motility. A Lot.
1) bentyl. Lowers gut movement and lowers spasm
2) reglan INCREASES gut movement and has the gut movement pattern change generally to a more normal one.
3) amitryptiline should really be number one. It is an anti-depressant. That is the only property of the drug that is irrelevant! It has side effects of shutting down the gut. This includes a dry mouth but also includes lowering gut motility (atropine like effect). This occurs about 10 min after taking. Not it's main benefit. It is a serotonin modulator to be an anti-depressant. The serotonin also triggers a LOT of the gut problems. having a SMALL amount of amitryptiline (10-20 mg) given frequently (3 times a day) causes a slight elevation of serotonin in the gut alll the time. Normal gut has ups and downs of serotonin like gentle waves. Irritable bowel is like heavy wave chop. Amitryptiline increases the level of serotonin all the time so that the lows of the waves are gone. This changes the chop to gentle waves cause the lows are as high as the peaks in serotonin levels due to the amitryptiline. Takes a few days at most a week.
Did I mention it is a non-narcotic pain drug? yeah...that leads to
4) non-narcotic pain drugs that damp down twitchy nerves. Amitryptiline might be the best. There's a lot of other very cheap very safe drugs that also do that but in different ways than amitryptiline. Any anti-epileptic, but gabapentin is the most commonly used, easiest to use, and would be the safest except for this indication all the other anti-epileptics can be used and half to one quarter the dose used in epilepsy so they are all quite safe at those doses.
and last on the list is
5) this is really last on the list and I cannot really recommend this BUT, for the sake of completeness I have to include it. Capsaicin is hot chili extract. It stimulates pain nerves and changes gut motility based on its action on those nerves. It is painful. It activates and kills off pain nerves. This will have an effect BUT, in the short term likely to be quite painful and this is not even studied to say if it works or that it isn't just harmful and......also not recommended....
6) other stimulants of pain. What? Other stimulants of pain?!? Yeah, this is fairly well established that in some people with continuing to trigger pain, the body down regulates the pain (wind down, habituation, tolerance) but it can move in the other direction too. Part of the effect is on the pain nerves that wear out with over stimulation. Part of it is changes in the spine that damp down signals when there is an overload (amitryptiline does this and DOES NOT cause pain so.......well, I put it higher on the list for a reason). And part of it is at the level of the brain which tunes out pain after it is present all the time... yeah...well.... cognitive exercises can theoretically be done to do the same thing, like meditation and mindfullness. None of these techniques are established as working so,

I can only recommend the advise you've likely already gotten and various stool softeners and nerve pills. Likely to help, very unlikely to do anything at all bad.
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What Does My MRI Scan Test Report Indicate?

Brief Answer: sorry, clin pharmacologist... Detailed Answer: so, I'm gong to HAVE to mention drugs. Signs of bowel motility issues would include, not normal bowel movements, spasm pain, bloating. Happens due to scar tissue (I'm sure everyone has mentioned this). Surgical treatment and changing the mesh is really fraught. There has to be healing after surgery and then there is the LIKELIHOOD of new scar. Then there is the treatment of the bowel contents to make them move easier and with less being caught up and involved in spasm. Stool bulk and softening and increasing liquid content of stool (people REally should have mentioned this). Then, here's what I can add. First, narcotics are a bad idea. They literally put the bowel to sleep and can only make bowel movement worse. People who have narcotic complications on bowel recently had a few new drugs approved in the US that are narcotic blockers that only work inside of the gut and are designed to stop narcotics locking up gut motility. Haven't had anyone who needed it yet, so I cannot say if this drug works at all. THen....... main thing..... there's a lot of non-narcotic drugs for gut motility. A Lot. 1) bentyl. Lowers gut movement and lowers spasm 2) reglan INCREASES gut movement and has the gut movement pattern change generally to a more normal one. 3) amitryptiline should really be number one. It is an anti-depressant. That is the only property of the drug that is irrelevant! It has side effects of shutting down the gut. This includes a dry mouth but also includes lowering gut motility (atropine like effect). This occurs about 10 min after taking. Not it's main benefit. It is a serotonin modulator to be an anti-depressant. The serotonin also triggers a LOT of the gut problems. having a SMALL amount of amitryptiline (10-20 mg) given frequently (3 times a day) causes a slight elevation of serotonin in the gut alll the time. Normal gut has ups and downs of serotonin like gentle waves. Irritable bowel is like heavy wave chop. Amitryptiline increases the level of serotonin all the time so that the lows of the waves are gone. This changes the chop to gentle waves cause the lows are as high as the peaks in serotonin levels due to the amitryptiline. Takes a few days at most a week. Did I mention it is a non-narcotic pain drug? yeah...that leads to 4) non-narcotic pain drugs that damp down twitchy nerves. Amitryptiline might be the best. There's a lot of other very cheap very safe drugs that also do that but in different ways than amitryptiline. Any anti-epileptic, but gabapentin is the most commonly used, easiest to use, and would be the safest except for this indication all the other anti-epileptics can be used and half to one quarter the dose used in epilepsy so they are all quite safe at those doses. and last on the list is 5) this is really last on the list and I cannot really recommend this BUT, for the sake of completeness I have to include it. Capsaicin is hot chili extract. It stimulates pain nerves and changes gut motility based on its action on those nerves. It is painful. It activates and kills off pain nerves. This will have an effect BUT, in the short term likely to be quite painful and this is not even studied to say if it works or that it isn't just harmful and......also not recommended.... 6) other stimulants of pain. What? Other stimulants of pain?!? Yeah, this is fairly well established that in some people with continuing to trigger pain, the body down regulates the pain (wind down, habituation, tolerance) but it can move in the other direction too. Part of the effect is on the pain nerves that wear out with over stimulation. Part of it is changes in the spine that damp down signals when there is an overload (amitryptiline does this and DOES NOT cause pain so.......well, I put it higher on the list for a reason). And part of it is at the level of the brain which tunes out pain after it is present all the time... yeah...well.... cognitive exercises can theoretically be done to do the same thing, like meditation and mindfullness. None of these techniques are established as working so, I can only recommend the advise you've likely already gotten and various stool softeners and nerve pills. Likely to help, very unlikely to do anything at all bad.