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Can Norvasc, Acebutolol And Hydrochlorothiazide Be Taken Together?

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Posted on Mon, 7 Mar 2016
Question: Have been on altace 10mg,hydraclorthazide 12.5, for the last ten(10) years. Have now been changed to norvasc10 mg once a day ,and acebutrol 100 mg twice a day, and hydraclorthazide 12.5 once a day.was changed because blood pressure was very high(187 over 90 and pulse around 76) most days. Blood pressure is more stable but having a lot of back weakness and aching. I have only been on nor ask about a week and acebutrol about one month. Are these drugs safe and how could I go back to altace safely. I am a 67 year old woman.
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Answered by Dr. Ilir Sharka (1 hour later)
Brief Answer:
I would recommend as follows:

Detailed Answer:
Hello!

Welcome and thank you for asking on HCM!

Regarding your concern, I would like to explain that as there are no predefined antihypertensive schemes, when choosing the most appropriate antihypertensive drugs, we are always guided by two main issues:

1-Medication effectiveness. As you are saying that your previous therapy couldn't manage your high blood pressure (186/90 mmHg) and your actual therapy (Norvasc, Acebutolol, Hydroclorthyazide) has led to a more stable blood pressure, it seems that your actual therapy is more effective in addressing high blood pressure.

Coming to this point, I would like to know: which are your actual blood pressure values?

Is your blood pressure under 140/90 mmHg?

Have you experienced recently low blood pressure (<110/70 mmHg)?

Which is your actual average heart rate?

2-Medication tolerance. Almost all antihypertensive drugs may exert potential unwanted (adverse) effects.

Coming to this point, I would like to explain that both your new drugs (Norvasc and Acebutolol) has been shown in certain patients to manifest potential muscular cramps and myalgia.

Which are your back pain characteristics (cramps, squeeze, compression, tightening, etc.)?

To ascertain whether drug-related muscular injury is responsible for your clinical symptomatology (back pain), it is necessary a careful physical examination and some laboratory tests (muscular enzymes and inflammation markers).

I would recommend you to test:

- CPK
- AST and ALT
- LDH
- PCR
- Complete blood count
- Chest X ray study
- Backbone X ray study

Only if muscular involvement is excluded by the above mentioned tests, any medication implication (adverse effects) would be surely excluded.

If Norvasc or Acebutolol adverse effects are confirmed, then you can switch to your previous Altace, but meanwhile it is necessary to increase Hydrochlorthiazide daily dose to 25mg and consider the possibility of adding another safer antihypertensive drug, to better manage your high blood pressure.
You need to discuss with your prescribing doctor on the above mentioned issues.

Hope to have been helpful!

If you have any other uncertainties, please do not hesitate to ask me!

Kind regards,

Dr. Iliri

Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Ilir Sharka (28 minutes later)
My pressure has been approximately 112/60 most of the day.my heart rate is normally about 65 to 70. Is it safe to stop the blockers at once?what is your recommendation for a safer anti hypertensive?

Is it safe to stop norvasc 10 mg(been on science wed XXXXXXX 20) and acebutrol 100mg twice a day( science Dec 1 2015) Beleive I have muscular problems from one or the other. I would go back to the Altace10 mg twice a day and hydraclorthazide 25mg as you suggested in previous answer. My blood pressure reading this morning upon getting up are 139/84 pulse 66. Took acebutrol 100mg and 12.5 hydraclorthazide at 7.30 am. and this reading was at 8.15 am. Thank you for any information you can help with
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Answered by Dr. Ilir Sharka (12 hours later)
Brief Answer:
Opinion as follows:

Detailed Answer:
Hi again, dear XXXXXXX

Your actual blood pressure values seem to be perfectly controlled.

If no current complaints would be present (back pain), I would prefer to maintain this antihypertensive scheme.

But, as some unpleasant feelings are obvious, after performing the above recommended tests and concluding for a possible medication adverse effect, the newly started drugs dosage should be reduce, stopped and possible substituted.

Regarding beta-blocker (Acebutolol), if strong evidence results for its implication on your back pain, its withdrawal should be done gradually (by decreasing its daily dose through an escalating fashion).

An immediate interruption of Acebutolol (as other beta-blockers) would risk a rebound phenomenon (disturbing tachycardia).

Regarding other antihypetensive alternatives, there in not any ideal rule in choosing them.

My personal opinion is that besides using Altace 10-20 mg daily (or other ACEI or ARB drugs) to increase Hydrochlorothiazide to 25 mg daily, decrease Norvasc to 5 mg daily, and Acebutolol to 50 mg twice daily for a couple of days and see the effects.

If back pain persists, then decrease further Acebutolol to 25 mg twice after a couple of days and then stop. If back pain persists again stop Norvasc.

BUT, remember that all the above steps should be followed only if the above recommended tests give strong evidence of adverse drugs effects implication.

Wishing you a pleasant weekend,

Regards,

Dr. Iliri
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Can Norvasc, Acebutolol And Hydrochlorothiazide Be Taken Together?

Brief Answer: I would recommend as follows: Detailed Answer: Hello! Welcome and thank you for asking on HCM! Regarding your concern, I would like to explain that as there are no predefined antihypertensive schemes, when choosing the most appropriate antihypertensive drugs, we are always guided by two main issues: 1-Medication effectiveness. As you are saying that your previous therapy couldn't manage your high blood pressure (186/90 mmHg) and your actual therapy (Norvasc, Acebutolol, Hydroclorthyazide) has led to a more stable blood pressure, it seems that your actual therapy is more effective in addressing high blood pressure. Coming to this point, I would like to know: which are your actual blood pressure values? Is your blood pressure under 140/90 mmHg? Have you experienced recently low blood pressure (<110/70 mmHg)? Which is your actual average heart rate? 2-Medication tolerance. Almost all antihypertensive drugs may exert potential unwanted (adverse) effects. Coming to this point, I would like to explain that both your new drugs (Norvasc and Acebutolol) has been shown in certain patients to manifest potential muscular cramps and myalgia. Which are your back pain characteristics (cramps, squeeze, compression, tightening, etc.)? To ascertain whether drug-related muscular injury is responsible for your clinical symptomatology (back pain), it is necessary a careful physical examination and some laboratory tests (muscular enzymes and inflammation markers). I would recommend you to test: - CPK - AST and ALT - LDH - PCR - Complete blood count - Chest X ray study - Backbone X ray study Only if muscular involvement is excluded by the above mentioned tests, any medication implication (adverse effects) would be surely excluded. If Norvasc or Acebutolol adverse effects are confirmed, then you can switch to your previous Altace, but meanwhile it is necessary to increase Hydrochlorthiazide daily dose to 25mg and consider the possibility of adding another safer antihypertensive drug, to better manage your high blood pressure. You need to discuss with your prescribing doctor on the above mentioned issues. Hope to have been helpful! If you have any other uncertainties, please do not hesitate to ask me! Kind regards, Dr. Iliri