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Suggest Treatment For SLE And Multiple Sclerosis

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Posted on Sat, 5 Apr 2014
Question: My name is XXXXXXX I was diagnosed with SLE Lupus over 13 years ago. I have severe blood disorders related to lupus including pernicious anemia diagnosed by a bone marrow biopsy, beta thalesmia, thrombocytopenia, leukopenia, adrenal deficiency (Addison's disease), folic acid definicency. I am biracial : 62% African American and 38% European confirmed by a recent DNA test ( I have no Native American or Asian ancestry at all) . Everyone on my mom's side of the family appear either European or " mixed" , and my grandmother had natural blond hair, but everyone denies that anyone in the family was white. My grandmother also had pernicious anemia and died from gastric cancer. My mom also has pernicious anemia and has had peptic ulcers and gastric polyps. My particular type of lupus greatly resembles Multiple Sclerosis, and I had an aunt on my dad's side who died from MS. Is it possible that my blood diseases as well as my mom's and grandmother's are due to having Scandinavian ancestry? I ask this question especially because how greatly my symptoms resemble MS. I have been suffering from a very serious lupus flare and a kidney infection that has lasted for almost 4 months now. Could you give me some sort of "educated guess" in reference to my question? Thanks! XXXXXXX Washington, DC
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Answered by Dr. Rakesh Karanwal (6 hours later)
Brief Answer: More information required to consider possible MS Detailed Answer: Hi Ms. XXXXXXX Thanks for your query. Firstly, you have neither enumerated the symptoms/facts which make you feel that you may have MS nor, the medicines, taken ever since the diagnosis of SLE was made. You will appreciate that in SLE- an autoimmune disease- antibodies are formed against any part and organs of the body. Antibodies against kidney tissues, causes kidney involvement which progresses to kidney failure. Apparently, the flare up of SLE is the cause of kidneys' affection. Since steroids are used in all cases of SLE, I presume that you too were on high doses of steroids in the past, which could be the cause of Adrenal inefficiency (Addison's Disease). Autoantibodies against the intestinal lining, destroy the intestinal lining with consequent impaired digestion/absorption, particularly of vitamins(B12 and Folic acid) and minerals, particularly calcium. Persistent Pernicious anemia is due to chronic Vitamin B12 and Folic acid. Since their absorption is impaired, these vitamins in INJECTABLE form, will be effective in curing pernicious anemia. Beta Thalassemia is responsible for chronic anemia. Low blood counts (thrombocytopenia and leukopenia) are manifestations of SLE. Pernicious anemia, gastric polyps can be hereditary, IRRESPECTIVE OF YOUR ANCESTRY. Hence, you should undergo endoscopy/colonoscopy to rule out/detect intestinal/gastric polyps. In a nutshell, all abnormalities and bone marrow findings conform to the manifestations of SLE. Perhaps, if you provide me with your entire symptoms in detail, I can opine on the possibility of MS. Hope I have addressed your concerns to your complete satisfaction and you find my response helpful and informative. I will be happy to answer further queries, if any. Fond regards and have a nice day, Col (Dr.) Rakesh Karanwal
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Rakesh Karanwal (2 hours later)
Hi, dr. Karanwal, I apologize for not giving you a more detailed description of my SLE lupus symptoms and medications! I was only on prednisone for about a month and a half, & I was then taken off of it, because it greatly worsened my Bipolar 1 symptoms and I ended up in the psych ward. I was then placed on Plaquenil, which helped a lot. I was then placed on aziothyoprine (50 mg., twice a day) to treat the pernicious anemia, thrombocytopenia, and leukopenia, and have been on it for about 13 years. The bone marrow biopsy was done PRIOR to my being placed on aziothyoprine, and I receive regular Vitamin B12 injections about every couple of months, and I take folic acid supplements daily. 'My lupus symptoms prior to diagnosis included the following: "TIA" in which in suffered from right side facial paralysis and a 20- minute vision loss in my right eye; severe burning and pins & needles pain in my face, arms, legs, hands, feet, fingers & toes, including extreme joint pain in my fingers, elbows, knees and toes; pleurisy around my lungs; heart involvement, but tests only showed that I was born with a "hole in my heart" ( my mom has a heart murmur); vasculitis on all of my fingers; skin rashes & bruising on my chest, arms, stomach and legs; photosensitivivity, but I have never had the classic " lupus rash" across my cheeks & nose, nor do I have discoid lupus. I have never had any hair loss. I have never had any kidney involvement until this recent flare. My lupus symptoms were in remission for 13 years prior to this flare, which includes all of the symptoms described above ( severe burning, pins & needles pain in all extremities, including peripheral neuropathy and muscle pain and vasculitis involvement on a couple of my toes,; extreme nausea, and weight loss, poor appetite due to the kidney infection; extreme tiredness and fatigue in which I either sleep for almost an entire day or I don't sleep at all due to extreme pain. I am back on plaquinel, and Advil ( of which I take 6 to 14 tablets a day spaced between morning and evening). I am not overweight, and was a competitive bodybuilder & martial artist prior to my lupus diagnosis over 14 years ago. Now, I can barely exercise at all. My diet is considered good by my doctors, and I normally don't have high blood pressure, but I did get it for a couple of weeks due to the lupus flare. Now, it's back to normal. I would appreciate a more in-depth analysis of my genetic tendency towards my blood disorders and MS! I was tested for MS in my past, but it was ruled out due to a CT scan if my brain showing no white patches. Again, I apologize for my lack of a detailed description of my lupus symptoms and medications. Thanks, XXXXXXX Washington, DC
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Answered by Dr. Rakesh Karanwal (7 hours later)
Brief Answer: Genetic aspects of SLE and MS are given below Detailed Answer: Hi Ms. XXXXXXX Nice hearing back from you. Let us not confuse between Genetic and Hereditary diseases. The latter are due to chromosomal disorders, while Genetic diseases are due to abnormality of a specific gene(s). Both- SLE and MS- are autoimmune diseases, which are linked to differences in the human leukocyte antigen (HLA) system—a group of genes on chromosome 6. Susceptibility (that is, increased genetic tendency) to developing either SLE/MS or other autoimmune diseases, depends on the genes (in HLA system) in which changes occur. All your blood disorders are manifestations of SLE. Further, both conditions have several similarities in their manifestation, signs and symptoms. However, there is destruction of the protective sheath (called myelin) of the brain and nerves in MS. Absence of findings of destroyed myelin sheath in MRI of brain and/or Spinal cord EXCLUDES MS (as in your case). Differences in genetic abnormalities in the HLA system confirms the diagnosis of SLE/MS. Hence, tests for HLA genes' abnormalities would confirm the diagnosis. Genetic Karyotyping would identify all abnormal genes. On the other hand, in your case, Pernicious Anemia is present in three generations. In Pernicious anemia (PA), there is a severe lack of Intrinsic Factor (IF), which is produced in the stomach lining. It mediates in the process of absorption of Vitamin B12 (Cobalamin). The gene of IF is present on Chromosome 11. Abnormality or mutation of this gene leads to severe deficiency of IF and, in turn, causes Vitamin B12 deficiency. PA is a common disease in north Europeans but occurs in all countries and ethnic groups. The overall incidence is about 120 per 100,000 population in the United Kingdom (UK). The peak age of onset is 60 years, with only 10% of patients being <40 years of age. However, in some ethnic groups, notably black individuals and Latin Americans, the age at onset of PA is generally lower. Also, PA is commonly associated with other autoimmune diseases, including Addison's disease and SLE (but NOT MS). Since you have a mixed (African + European lineage- as per DNA test, the onset of the disease occurred at an early age. MS is more common in northern North XXXXXXX northern Europe, southern Australia, and south New Zealand), the prevalence of MS is 0.1–0.2%. By contrast, in Asia, equatorial Africa, and the Middle East), the prevalence is often ten- to twentyfold less. Hence, given your lineage, you are at a lesser risk of developing MS, as compared to SLE. Hope I have provided you the information you desired. Take care
Note: For detailed guidance on genetic screening consult a genetics specialist

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Suggest Treatment For SLE And Multiple Sclerosis

Brief Answer: More information required to consider possible MS Detailed Answer: Hi Ms. XXXXXXX Thanks for your query. Firstly, you have neither enumerated the symptoms/facts which make you feel that you may have MS nor, the medicines, taken ever since the diagnosis of SLE was made. You will appreciate that in SLE- an autoimmune disease- antibodies are formed against any part and organs of the body. Antibodies against kidney tissues, causes kidney involvement which progresses to kidney failure. Apparently, the flare up of SLE is the cause of kidneys' affection. Since steroids are used in all cases of SLE, I presume that you too were on high doses of steroids in the past, which could be the cause of Adrenal inefficiency (Addison's Disease). Autoantibodies against the intestinal lining, destroy the intestinal lining with consequent impaired digestion/absorption, particularly of vitamins(B12 and Folic acid) and minerals, particularly calcium. Persistent Pernicious anemia is due to chronic Vitamin B12 and Folic acid. Since their absorption is impaired, these vitamins in INJECTABLE form, will be effective in curing pernicious anemia. Beta Thalassemia is responsible for chronic anemia. Low blood counts (thrombocytopenia and leukopenia) are manifestations of SLE. Pernicious anemia, gastric polyps can be hereditary, IRRESPECTIVE OF YOUR ANCESTRY. Hence, you should undergo endoscopy/colonoscopy to rule out/detect intestinal/gastric polyps. In a nutshell, all abnormalities and bone marrow findings conform to the manifestations of SLE. Perhaps, if you provide me with your entire symptoms in detail, I can opine on the possibility of MS. Hope I have addressed your concerns to your complete satisfaction and you find my response helpful and informative. I will be happy to answer further queries, if any. Fond regards and have a nice day, Col (Dr.) Rakesh Karanwal