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Diagnosed Upper Tract Urethral Carcinoma, Spread To Lymph Nodes, Chest And Throat Pain. Any Thoughts For Cure ?

Hi, I live in Calgary Alberta. My dad had a cancer tumour in his kidney. I believe the cancer is referred to as "upper tract euretherial carcenoma". the kidney was removed, however; the cancer has spread to his lymph nodes. Subsequently a year later it has now shown up in his chest. He was just recently hospitalized June 8th complaining about chest pain and difficulty swallowing. Note that a few months ago he lost his voice due to the lymph nodes encroaching on his voice box. On June 12th he had an episode where he had some issues breathing and his oxygen levels were low, but subsequently he ended up doing better now. They put him on antibiotics and steroids and they told us that he got pneumonia due to aspiration. They said that the cancer has caused complications in that he has a possibility of aspirating at anytime and has been put on a thickened food and fluid diet. We are trying to get a certain ENT doctor to check him to see if anything can be done with his throat larynx to help him, but the initial ENT that was there a few days ago was not very helpful. I suspect that all of the doctors are not putting in much of an effort because they feel he is pretty much done and it’s not worth doing anything. I suspect that it may be due to the fact that my father’s goals of cares status was put as an M1 although we initially had him at R1.

During his hospital stay (he is actually still in the hospital but this Wednesday we have a mtg with the staff, unit nurse, some doctors etc regarding the next steps) my dad has had a ct-scan of his chest and it would appear that the lymph nodes are still growing at a rate of about half a cm per every 6 weeks. It is referred to as mediastinal lymph nodes in his chest. I think the lymph nodes are around 3 to 3.5 cm (they have not done a bronchyoscopy due to the high risk factor according to the doctor) I just spoke with my dad’s medical oncologist who says that he is definitely not fit enough for chemo and doesn’t feel like a crio therapy or crioabration is the solution since it is too deep and is not isolated to a specific node but several in the chest area. Another Dr. that saw my dad was a little more optimistic than the rest. He looked at his charts and couldn’t understand why he looked this bad. He said that the lymph nodes in his chest are growing and there is cancer there, however; the rest of his body is ok. He blood tests are ok, the cancer has not spread anywhere else whatsoever.


What I am seeking are some suggestions. Some alternatives, or other procedure that may be feasible. I am seeking something more specific such as including names of Doctors if there is a specific procedure only certain doctors do. So their contact info if possible. My oncologist is giving me very little info or ideas to work with.

I Find most of the Doctors here in Calgary to be doom and gloom but I am not ready to give up on my father.
Fri, 28 Jun 2013
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Hi there,
Tom Baker cancer centre in Calgary is a famous one and I'm sure you will get authentic and realistic advise from the doctors there. Renal cell carcinoma is a notoriously resistant disease to any form of treatment and only the minority of cases in which surgery is able to remove the tumor completely, we see good results, Rest of the cases eventually metastasise and we loose them.
I'm sorry but there are not much options in modern science for this situation apart from palliation and keeping him comfortable. Take care
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Diagnosed Upper Tract Urethral Carcinoma, Spread To Lymph Nodes, Chest And Throat Pain. Any Thoughts For Cure ?

Hi there, Tom Baker cancer centre in Calgary is a famous one and I m sure you will get authentic and realistic advise from the doctors there. Renal cell carcinoma is a notoriously resistant disease to any form of treatment and only the minority of cases in which surgery is able to remove the tumor completely, we see good results, Rest of the cases eventually metastasise and we loose them. I m sorry but there are not much options in modern science for this situation apart from palliation and keeping him comfortable. Take care